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John Sober

Male 1739 - 1795  (56 years)


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  1. 1.  John Sober was born 1739, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies; was christened , Sober Castle, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies; died 1795; was buried , Saint Faith’s under Saint Paul’s Cathedral, London, London, England.

    Notes:

    Born at Sober Castle

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    1st Son and heir, of Sober Castle, born 1739; of Queens College Oxford("Q. Coll., Oxf.") matric(ulated) 8 April 1756; at 17; presented fontto St. Peter's in 1767; named in 1772 in the will of his brother Abr.;dead 1795; bur(ied) in St. Faith's under St. Paul's Cath(edral)(Brandow J.C. Genealogies of Barbados Families).

    Eldest son (Brandow J.C. Genealogies of Barbados Families page 509)

    John married Martha Bersheba. Martha died 1795, Margate, Kent, England. [Group Sheet]

    John married Penelope Blake 6 Nov 1760, , , England. Penelope (daughter of Major Martin Blake) was born , Sevenoaks, Kent, England; died 29 Jan 1774; was buried 2 Feb 1774, Abbey Church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul "Bath Abbey", Bath, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 2. Hope Elletson Sober  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 3. John Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Latheron, Caithness, Scotland.
    3. 4. Abraham Cumberbatch Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1771, , Barbados, West Indies; died 7 Dec 1813, London, , England.
    4. 5. Penelope Wentworth Sober  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Hope Elletson Sober Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1)

    Notes:

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    Will (source Ernest M. Wiltshire): In the will of his step-motherMartha Bersheba Sober, dated 26 Apr 1795: "I have left my estate toHope Elletson Sober for his life only, as I believe his atachment tothe Indian is not legal and his ch are illegitimate in justice to therest of my husband's family. His handsome legacy from his grandmotherand aunt."
    Perhaps the ancestor of the coloured SOBERS, or perhaps refers to the East Indies: In the will of his grandmother May Sober, dated 28 July1792: "Elletson S. now in the E.I., 2000lbs."

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    Hope Elletson Sober, in the E.I. in 1789 ;? left natural children by Indian woman (Brandow J.C. Genealogies of Barbados Families)


  2. 3.  John Sober Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born , of Latheron, Caithness, Scotland.

    John married Anna Ann Middleton. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 6. Ann Gordon Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was christened 15 Mar 1802, Thurso, Caithness, Scotland.
    2. 7. John Middleton Sober  Descendancy chart to this point

  3. 4.  Abraham Cumberbatch Sober Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born 1771, , Barbados, West Indies; died 7 Dec 1813, London, , England.

    Notes:

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    WILL (Source Ernest M. Wiltshire): Will proved 7 April 1814
    "My wife Ann the dau of the late Tho. Kemp, M.P. for Lewes, Co.Sussex, all my estate and sole Ex'trix, she paying to each of my bros& sister 100 gns.

    Capt. Dragoon Guards ; died in L (London) 7 Dec. 1813; at 42. (248,Bridport) (Brandow J.C. Genealogies of Barbados Families)

    1st King's Dragoon Guards. 1804
    On the 12th November 1804 a General Court Martial commenced for the trial of Lt Colonel John Elliott, on three charges preffered against him by Captain Abraham Cumberbatch Sober, also of the King's Dragoon Guards. The trial continued by adjournements until the 21st November by virtue of a special warrant signed by the King. George III, directed by the Judge Advocate General, the Rt Hon Sir Charles Morgan Bart. It was held at the Castle Tavern, Brightelmstone (Now Brighton) with Major General Lennox as President, 14 Officers as members, and Deputy Judge Advocate James Charles Michell.
    The three charges brought against Elliott by Sobers were as follows:
    1st: For disobedience of General Orders concerning the sale of Cast (no longer fit for service) horses, dated January 7th 1802 in not causing such horses to be sold by Public Auction in several instances.
    viz: At Bristol on the 12th March 1803: At Exeter 4th November 1803: At Chichester June 20th 1804: which last is in disobedience of Brigade Orders issued by Major General Hugonin dated June 13th 1804.
    2nd: For carrying on an improper Traffic with the Bat (Baggage) and Cast horses between the dates of November 4th 1803 and 9th September 1804, highly disgraceful to the situation he holds in the regiment and thereby defrauding the Government.
    3rd: For making requisitions and receiving Coals and Candles as a Barrack allowance, during the period the King's Dragoon Guards were quartered in Arundel Barracks whilst he lodged in the town of Arundel and not in the Barracks between the 1st April 1804 and September 6th 1804: Contrary to an express order on tha head.
    On the morning of Wednesday 21st November the Opinion and Sentence of the Court was read out:
    1st Charge: Not guilty of causing horses to be sold by public auction at Bristol. Guilty of causing two Cast horses to be sold at Exeter: Guilty of not causing seven Cast horses to be sold at Chichester which was also in disobedience of Brigade Orders
    2nd Charge: Guilty
    3rd Charge: Guilty but the court was acknowledged that Elliott was unaware of the order until it was transmitted to him and that he had volunarily refunded the Coals and Candles previous to the knowledge that the charge was to be brought against him.
    ''Although deeply impressed with the many honourable Testimonies and to the good Character of the said Lt Colonel John Elliott and the length of his military service, yet, regarding the charges of which they have found him Guilty, as a breach of the Articles of War, do with great regret, feel it is their duty to adjudge and do hereby adjudge the said Lt Colonel John Elliott to be dismissed form His Majesty's Service''.
    The King subsequently approved the opinion of the Court Martial and confirmed the sentence

    Abraham married Ann Kemp. Ann (daughter of Thomas Kemp) died 1855. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 8. Abraham Cumberbatch Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1791.
    2. 9. Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was born 15 Feb 1802; died 15 Feb 1802.
    3. 10. Anna Cecilia Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was christened 25 Jul 1810, Warbleton, Sussex, England.
    4. 11. Mary Esther Sober  Descendancy chart to this point was born Cal 1814; died 16 Oct 1832, Torrington Square, London, England.

  4. 5.  Penelope Wentworth Sober Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1)


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Ann Gordon Sober Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.John1) was christened 15 Mar 1802, Thurso, Caithness, Scotland.

    Ann married John Cummins Goding 8 May 1821, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies. John was born 5 Mar 1796, Saint James, Barbados, West Indies. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 12. John Gay Goding  Descendancy chart to this point was christened 19 Aug 1822, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies.
    2. 13. Mary Prescod Goding  Descendancy chart to this point was christened 7 Nov 1824, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies.

  2. 7.  John Middleton Sober Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.John1)

  3. 8.  Abraham Cumberbatch Sober Descendancy chart to this point (4.Abraham2, 1.John1) was born 1791.

    Notes:

    "the younger, 1791"


  4. 9.  Sober Descendancy chart to this point (4.Abraham2, 1.John1) was born 15 Feb 1802; died 15 Feb 1802.

  5. 10.  Anna Cecilia Sober Descendancy chart to this point (4.Abraham2, 1.John1) was christened 25 Jul 1810, Warbleton, Sussex, England.

  6. 11.  Mary Esther Sober Descendancy chart to this point (4.Abraham2, 1.John1) was born Cal 1814; died 16 Oct 1832, Torrington Square, London, England.

    Notes:

    Died at age 18



Generation: 4

  1. 12.  John Gay Goding Descendancy chart to this point (6.Ann3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was christened 19 Aug 1822, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies.

  2. 13.  Mary Prescod Goding Descendancy chart to this point (6.Ann3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was christened 7 Nov 1824, Saint Peter, Barbados, West Indies.


 

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